A shop worker has sustained serious injuries this week after an SUV parked outside his store suddenly accelerated and drove into him, knocking him to the ground.
According to video footage of the incident that was published by Al Sharq, the incident took place outside a small supermarket in Bin Omran at 1:30pm on Tuesday, Jan. 20.
The Youtube video, which some readers may find disturbing, appears to be an excerpt of the store’s CCTV coverage.
The shopkeeper, who hails from the southern Indian state of Kerala, can be seen standing outside the store arranging newspapers on a rack, with a row of cars parked about 5m behind him.
What happened
He can then be seen bending down to pick up a bundle of papers and as he stands up, a black SUV suddenly accelerates towards him at significant speed, crushing him against the front glass wall of the shop.
The short clip also shows a man dressed in a white thobe being thrown to the ground from the open driver’s side door.
It was not immediately clear what caused the car to accelerate.
The incident took place outside New Taif Supermarket. The injured employee suffered a broken right leg and was rushed by ambulance to Hamad General Hospital where he is expected to undergo surgery today, his colleague told Doha News this morning.
The 42-year-old man’s name is Raju, and he has lived in Doha for 18 years. His wife and two children are in Kerala.
A woman who was apparently in the car at the time of the incident and is believed to be the driver’s wife was also taken to the hospital by ambulance,, the Peninsula reports. Police were called to the scene, the newspaper added.
This is not the first time a car crashing into a building in Qatar has gained public attention.
Last February, a video of a silver sedan crashing through a Ferrari/Maserati showroom at the Pearl-Qatar went viral.
In 2011, footage emerged of a Toyota Land Cruiser barreling through the storefront of an Al Zaman Currency Exchange branch in Al Khor. And a few years before that, an FJ Cruiser jumped a curb and smashed through one of La Cigale Hotel’s window panes.
Each incident always sparks renewed conversations about road safety in Qatar, where traffic accident are among the leading causes of death.
Thoughts?
where is the video
I can’t find it.
Video is on the Al Sharq link in this article.
You can watch it on YT
http://youtu.be/A6-kDu2mII8
A black Porsche again…
Maybe the authoties should start thinking of banning them from the roads – as these vehicles tend to cause accidents (last week, where 1 was killed) – as they did with parfumes, because of their name can cause temptation.
lol.. so Axe effect really works
the revenge of “The Porker” 🙂
is that guy in the Thobe breakdancing?
The driver must have used D instead of R while stepping on gas, then he jumped out fearing that the car might crash.
Guess they don’t teach PRNDL here. Or needs ESL classes.
WATCH VIDEO SLOWLY with PAUSES. He wasn’t seated…he was still standing outside the car but inside the OPEN DOOR. Explain that one!
i think he left kid inside .. at drivers side (from the video , im yet to read the article)
“It was not immediately clear what caused the car to accelerate.”
A baffling, confounding mystery. /s
or, simply a manufacturing defect !
That’s only in Toyotas, isn’t it? 😉
it could be any car
or even worse, haunted car !
just to fit the mystery scenario
or a haunted Toyota!
there u go!
That’s the first time I’ve heard of a brain fart being called a “manufacturers defect”.
Creative blame avoidance.
Maybe he was using the new smartphone app to cool his car.
u couldn’t see the sarcasm here
blame the car…not the driver!
Sorry it sounded like I was giving you grief. I thought you were saying that’s what their excuse would be. Was agreeing.
Sorry if I sounded like I was giving you grief. Was agreeing with you in that that’s what his excuse will be. When clearly it was not. sorry for confusion.
Apparently you don’t know about the all electronic throttle control systems? These systems, especially in the Toyota & Lexus vehicles, doesn’t have effective FAILSAFES that prevent a runaway vehicle! Do a bit of research as NOT hard to find! However if you wish to defame the driver in an effort of “manufacturing defect distraction” then by all means continue with your sarcasm;)
There’s no failsafe for driver error or dumb people–you’re screwed.
Your probably 12 years old haha
Yes I am little bro
Nice, good to know
* You’re *
Sorry
Kid sitting on drivers seat.
Well the guy in the thobe wasn’t wearing a seatbelt and neither was the kid. Two violations right there.
Poor shop worker. It looks very bad for him. I hope the driver of the car gets prosecuted for causing serious injury but I doubt it
Seeing his nationality, probably no. Seeing the car, too much wasta probably. Worst case scenario he goes to Belgium.
Seeing his nationality?
Hey, there are two Anonymice on here.
you know what they say about mice and rabbits.
Best served with a nice Merlot?
The Merlot must be what makes them procreate so rapidly. Alcohol, the bane of the world. But fun.
Excuse me.. Why Belgium?
Welcome to Doha
cough….Villaggio…..cough……ambassador
Seeing you’re racism, Worst case scenario, your just a disgusting person
Really? LOL Seems 43 people agree with me so I guess we all are. FYI a nationality is not a race. Even Gulfies is not a race. My problem is with people who think they have some kind of entitlement to do whatever they want, treat people however they want regardless of the rules, court judgements, common sense or decency and even their own religious doctrines. So STFU
lmao just because a lot of people ( we know what kind ) are on this site voting your type of comments and views doesn’t make what you said right, Okay you’re not a racist just a damn bigot, I hope he goes to Belgium and has the time of his life, Seeing people like you who hold such prejudice and hate comment over comment makes me laugh at all the little things we do that pisses you off 😀
I love to get you guys ire up. It’s just a game and you guys always follow. Lemming.
Lets take a collection of your post and see where the vast majority lie. Hypocrite.
Aha so all you say is just to rile people up and is a game to you? Heh sorry if that’s considered entertainment to you, I’d love to suggest you get a life but you’d probably just ruin someone else’s day, maybe it’s safer you live in a cave you troll
And if it’s such a terrible site because of us few bums there’s always the Peninsula site. To quote a famous poster, now going by a different name, LoveItOrLeaveIt.
I’m not gonna stop reading news of my country because of entitled whiny kids like you 🙁
43 bums who could not be employed back home agree with you, you throw the term “people” around loosely, make sure next time to specify they are unemployable bums like yourself.
Saleem, your argument with Desert Card brings out this concept that expats are here because we are unemployable in our home countries. I have commented on this here before. I would suggest that you drop this attitude or else stop using services provided by foreigners or flying on aircraft crewed by expats.
So you know this guy personally? You know he has a sense of entitlement? The assumption of him being the “people” you refer to because he is wearing a thobe and driving a nice car is why you are getting negative comments back. If you want to get technical, no it isnt racism but it certainly is a beast of the same species. The person at fault does need to be held responsible and provide some kind of compensation to the poor victim. I don’t claim to know what happened inside the car, but tell me oh wise one, which nationality has never caused any car related injuries?
Antartican
From his attitude and response to not just myself but others who might happen to criticize that type of behavior on a daily basis… I would say he falls into that category. My guess and opinion only.
I was referring to the person in the video and your comment regarding him.
Althani – they have not mentioned name nor nationality of the person who drove the car but the person injured is all there. Not being racist – but why is there never information about the “man in the thobe who was thrown out of the car:”????
Maybe because his name or nationality has nothing to do with the actual story
You deserve to be ran over and I would gladly be the one to do it, although Belgium is quite boring I think it is still worth the sacrifice.
Ummm that would be ‘you deserve to be run over…”
And probably not the wife either since she was injured.
What kid?
He wasn’t even in the car, was he? Why is the car door open and why was he knocked down from standing just inside the OPEN DOOR?
The man wasn’t seated. He wasn’t even in the car yet. He’s standing inside the OPEN DOOR. He is knocked down when the car moves forward before he sits!
seeing each frame ..it seems the guy in thobe was trying to stop the car .. and was already outside the car before the car accelerated.. so it must be kid inside who accelerated it .. and air bag soon popped out
The kid accelerating the car seems quite obvious, but not mentioned at all in any articles. Cover-up in progress?
Not at all, just good ol’ DN journalism at its finest.
Deleted for being a troll. If you’re not going to productively contribute to this forum, you will be banned.
I can hear it now. “But little Moh cries when I put him in a car seat or don’t let him go vrooom vrooom while the car is parked (or not). How can I train him wanton disregard for life and train him for the future if I don’t let him go vrooom vrooom”.
again all about education and willing to learn. Again lack of respect of rules, and kids who are allowed to do whatever they want, the important is they don’t cry…if parents don’t give rules…..
There was no kid in the car, but then again you have a history on here of creating fabricated incidents of evil Qataris with “wasta” who are out to oppress you.
They don’t oppress me they just endanger my life, and that of my family and friends, on a daily basis with stupid.
Then why not move them to a safer place? Oh that’s right, unemployable out of Qatar, my bad.
Well if that’s the case and all the expats you call “unemployable bums” on here live here, what’s that make this place? As well as yourself? Since apparently only unemployable bums come here. Or do you even HAVE a job?
It must be a Google’s self driving car 🙂
Only Pajero is self driving car.
yes it does sometimes lol
Airbags don’t work if the seat belt is not on.
i dont think so.
Not so Ali. They are activated through the electronics or buss bar.
Another tragedy, I hope he gets well soon and whom ever caused will be punished.
I think the guy in the thobe was trying to stop the car not jumping out of it.
When you think about it anyone of us could have been standing there, no one is safe on the streets anymore, be careful people.
Not just the streets, the pavements are becoming very unsafe too as can be noticed from this episode. Now pedestrians will have to be as or more careful then the drivers driving the vehicles.
I know, just the other day a truck accelerated and hit 4 cars parked in front of my home. The driver was badly injured and his head was covered in bandage since he wasn’t wearing his seat belt and he hit the screen shield, and one car at least was totaled. it was a disaster.
Looks like now even the pavements are not safe for the pedestrians to stand on or to walk by. Something really needs to be done about this careless and irresponsible drivers instead of waiting for a bigger disaster to happen.
Agree. Pavements are not safe from these reckless and irresponsible drivers. I had a colleague “bulldozed” by a Hummer while walking on a sidewalk in Doha :O
Pavements have never been safe. Last month I was standing at a stoplight on Al Sadd, and a woman turned the corner in her 4×4 at such high speed that the car screeched and jumped the pavement right in front of me. A foot closer and she would have hit me for sure. She was chatting with her friend and probably didn’t realize how fast she was going. I see it happen time and time again. Add to that the impatient drivers who drive onto the sidewalk to look for parking, or to escape traffic jams… 🙁
“The short clip also shows a man dressed in a white thobe being thrown to the ground from the open driver’s side door.”
are you watching a different video – he was chasing the car and fell over when the vehicle suddenly stopped due to the impact.
I don’t mean to burst anyone’s bubble but unless these types of accidents involve Qatari citizens and not from Kerala not much will be done. You can’t teach human value over night. Expats are disposable goods 🙁 Self preservation cannot be thought either…it should somehow be there in everyone. Unless you care about your own health chances are others are just roadkill. Human life in whatever form deserves to be respected and preserved. It will be a while until most expats will be regarded as something more than (as I’ve heard it put) “Haiwan”.
I don’t think your comment is relevant with regards to this story. Here we are talking about an accident where both an expat and a local are hurt. We are not talking about the bad behaviour of some people here. I don’t think it is honest to jump on every occasion to bash the locals.
I would say from the video this was irresponsibility on the “locals” part. A child should never be in the drivers seat of a car parked or not, running or not.
What are you talking about? NO ONE was in the driver’s seat at all! The driver was knocked down before he sat down! The door of the “black SUV” was OPEN.
generally though, the expat won’t get justice, mainly if from Kerala…..
I’m talking about the mentality rather than action. I’m not lumping everyone into it and I’ve done my best to promote good attitude whenever I see it. Even some good friends of mine (locals, yeah) that are more “western” than me still have a tiny dark corner when it comes to human value. That’s what I was pointing out, not trying to demonize locals.
Deleting for being an overly generalized, racially charged statement that doesn’t contribute to the discussion about this incident.
Sorry, I’ll stick to the thread: Porsche are amazing cars that can accelerate within 3 m to extraordinary speeds. This article is a great achievement for German Engineering. Better?
She’s been hyper sensitive apparently since becoming Great Guardian of the Discussion Thread.
Not hyper sensitive, just tired of trolls.
You’re very arbitrary, that’s all.
You’re an ignorant troll.
Classic. And your response is…..? LOL
Saleem desertCard • a day ago
“You deserve to be ran over and I would gladly be the one to do it, although Belgium is quite boring I think it is still worth the sacrifice.”
This is what I mean by arbitrary. I’m a big boy and can take whatever someone wants to dish. But don’t make threats to ban others, mostly expats, for their comments when others, mostly locals, are threatening bodily harm and at times wishing death.
here is the link to the video…your welcome https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ky5CDo60XQ
Won’t be surprised if someone said it was photoshopped.
It’s clearly a video so how is it PHOTO shop
Video-Shopped?! :O
So someone changed the video to show the driver NOT yet in the car? WATCH it and see.
I hope you don’t believe that Godzilla is real.
CLEARLY, the driver never even made it inside the vehicle but was thrown to side with DOOR STILL OPEN!
Yes he was not in the car and the car accelerated, typical of Toyota and Lexus sudden unintended acceleration.
This wasn’t a toyota. And there’s always a driver involved, hence driver error.
Toyota and Lexus sudden unintended acceleration. Toyota has paid over $5 billion in fine, penalties, lawsuits and has ongoing lawsuits all over American. Toyota is on probation in US for the next 3 years. Toyota was charged by US government for lying and defrauding consumers. Over 500 lawsuits are going through mediation in US. Lee vs Toyota where Toyota lost the case regarding a Toyota Camry where Lee spent 3 years in prison due to Camry suddenly accelerated and killed 3 and injured 2.
He was not even in the car when the car accelerated. Toyota and Lexus are known to suddenly accelerate. Someone notify the family of this defective, out of control car. Do not allow Toyota to touch the car. Hire an attorney and expert!!
Another commenter says that the driver of the “black SUV” had complained to the dealership that this was an ELECTRONIC FAULT! Good for him! He hadn’t pressed any pedal at all! Why do articles in US always tell what police say and never what drivers say? Coverup up is SCANDALOUS!
It is all cheaper for the automakers to go through lawsuits than fix their defective cars. That is exactly what Toyota is doing right now in US. Settling cases through mediation.
Unrestrained children in the front of the car? Car engine left running? Handbrake on or off? An accident waiting to happen?
It’s not what you can call an “accident” in that case.
the first question is: who issues driving licenses to these people?
almost certainly issued by his brother/cousin/nephew/niece/aunt/uncle..
You can’t get wasta for licenses, No way no how, believe me I tried
I disagree…it happened before
Yeah maybe 10 years ago
So if something “happened before” it is bound to occur again? I guess that means there are still Africans being traded as slaves in the USA, or women forced into marriages in the UK…dumb a$$.
unlike you, I chose not to descend to “dumb a$$” level. If you can’t see wasta around,then maybe you need to open your eyes..being polite can help. it’s your choice.
Actually there are women forced into marriages in the UK. Quite a problem actually. Gov spends a lot of time working on this one.
I disagree. I got my first in 1993 because my sponsor was the nephew of …
If you look below, you’ll see i said that 10 years ago possibly and even farther back more likely but it’s changed now for sure, I guarantee that 100%
That’s 2 people you’ve mentioned
I think it’s the same set of geniuses responsible for the enforcement of traffic laws if you’re referring to the adult in the video. For the kid, not so sure…..
Jesus! That poor man! Anyone have idea of his condition?
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A6-kDu2mII8
Onother clip shows there was no kid inside the car
Guess the guy was just a dumba$$
Then you guys should be friends since you have something in common.
Troll alert Troll alert
They need to have parking blocks or something in front of parking spots right outside these places (like they have in parking lots in malls) or laws about cars parked so close without some kind of sidewalk or barrier.
did you see the poles ( columns ) that separate lanes at intersections?
the ripped of poles are much more than those still standing !
Yes, very true but I would rather have some kind of obstacle between me and a car than nothing at all.
Red herrings! Barriers will NOT stop in electronically-induced RUNAWAY vehicles! Bollards are often uprooted!
Auto manufacturers must be mandated to prove error-proof FAILSAFES in the electronic throttle control systems! Drivers are NOT to blame though automakers ruthlessly incriminate them with FAULTY EDR data!
Here ignoramus. This shirt has you all over it. Maybe it comes in chubby-size for you:
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How about day cars, building, store front, driving in the highway when cars like Toyota and Lexus take off like a rocket and kill and injure people. Toyota and Lexus are known to suddenly accelerate and in some cases in American they go airborne. Placing blocks are not the solution. The ELECTRONIC DEFECT in Toyota and Lexus need to be fixed.
Boy, you two idiots are going crazy for a story that didn’t involve a Toyota…
May be the driver tried to get out placing his leg on accelerator and the gear in D. They hardly switch off engine even while refuelling.
Anyway all he will pay is 100 Riyals if he is at fault.
Guess this “desertcard” and “MIMH ” and some others don’t have any other business to do….. why even live in this country and bite the hand that feeds you…. get lost to somewhere else and live your dreamlife
Do you cook?
LOL
LOL, Qatar doesn’t feed me, or pay me.
LOL, Qatar doesn’t feed me, or pay me.
It seems you selectively read my comments to fit your own narrative
Is ‘guessing’ one of your hobbies then?
There is no kid in the car, are you all on drugs?
Check the video posted below in the comments section. I thought the same as you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6-kDu2mII8
This is the full length video. Where is the kid?
i think that’s the airbag which everyone’s mistaking for a kid. check at frames between 2:08 and 2:12.
He rushes to the side and hugs him and puts him down at the back of the car. Watch him closely.
I cannot see the kid in this either.
I had to view the last section several times to pick up on it. Follow the driver as he runs around the car and appears at the far rear of the car holding something which he puts down in the ground.
He goes to drivers door to get him but the mother has already grabbed him so he goes to her side to pull him our and console, or whatever, him.
The driver goes to drivers door to get him (because that’s where he was) but the mother has already grabbed him so he goes to her side to pull him our and console, or whatever, him. Of course the wife he ignores.
What I understand was the person has taken his car to porsche reporting a malfunction is the car computer system. He claimed at the time of the incident the car was on neutral and hand brakes on. Anyone driving a cayanne knows these buttons are now all electronic and controlled by buttons.
I also understand the Indian suffered a broken leg, his whole leg was placed in a cast but was released from hospital the same day.
police report hadn’t been released and they are still investigating claims made by the driver
Quick google search comes up negative of any known faulty accelerater or hand breaks for this model..
I’m guessing he did completely shut his door thought he had it on R instead of D..
In the long video posted by some commenters here, you can clearly see that there is someone in the driver’s seat.
Saw the long video it seems he was in the car while it was on D and his foot on the brake.. 3 min later he decides to step out forgetting his car was on D.. Opens the door releases the brake and his V8 4×4 jumps forward
But cars don’t jump at that velocity from an idling engine.
unless its a manual transmission. (but i dont know anything about cayenne)
Manual would stall.
Manual would stall.
Agreed
it could be the airbag seen over there.
Even the hand brake is a button? In every car I’ve ever owned the hand brake is physically linked to cables that clamp on the (usually rear) wheels. So there’s no way a car could accelerate like that with a hand brake on. But I’ve never been so lucky as to own a Porsche, which is why I ask. I don’t really buy the computer glitch claim either. In my mind, if a computer glitch tells the car to accelerate (and it was clearly accelerating, not simply taking a foot off the brake while in Drive), then I’d expect to see the wheels still spinning after the crash, which isn’t what happened.
This is just my theoretical assumptions but this is probably fact or real. First things first, the Qatari driver set his car into ‘Drive mode’ that’s why it get accelerated unexpectedly without precautions at all. Instead of pressing the brake pedal, he pressed the accelerator which cause the car to hit the right leg of the victim and also the glass shop. Second, there’s no kid siting in the driver’s seat because if ever there is then he would be seen by the camera. Third, the problem was that, the shop owner didn’t put a cement barrier which could stop any car for any unexpected accidents. Fourth, as always, ‘PRECAUTIONS’ is better than ‘Cure’. Awareness should be given to all drivers in Qatar, educating everyone to always put their car on a ‘Park Mode’ whenever they just wanted to buy something for a minute or two or probably if they’re in a hurry – it’s better to park the car in the proper way, make the gear in ‘park mode’ as always, turn it off, and get down from drivers seat, and buy. Or the easiest way, is to call the shop assistant by beeping your car, then rest assured, he would probably come to get your orders.
I don’t know why most drivers keep their cars on D while stopping at traffic light, though it doesn’t take much effort to switch to N and apply hand brakes. If there was a kid in driver’s seat, I wouldn’t probably see him through the tinted glass ( its difficult for my old eyes ). I’m almost sure that it’s illegal to honk in front of grocery to GET SERVICE. correct me if that was wrong.
Thank you for your comment. However, in this case, I would not presumably put my self in a situation where I would commit an accident. I’m driving in Qatar for almost 5 years now and I’ve never been in a situation where I accidentally hit anyone. People should be educated not to put on Neutral Mode unless if it’s Manual Car or the best way if it’s automatic, is always to put in Park Mode whenever you are in Traffic Signal or just wanted to buy something.
Then the manufacturer should send warnings to drivers to keep cars in N with handbrake applied if they all so easily TAKE OFF!
They do. It’s called an owners manual, ignoramus
Toyota and Lexus are number one when it comes to SUDDEN INTENDED ACCELERATION..
Charlene and Azar are number one when it comes to stupidity and lies.
Accidents may happen! That’s why they are called accidents! However the fact remains that it increases proportionately with ignorance combined with lack of attention to small errands due to don’t care attitude, but that’s none of my business (sips tea).
I think the traffic department should have a law against people honking at stores causing unnecessary traffic just because they wanted a packet of cigarette or “karak”.
After watching the video I personally believe it was an attempt to murder or a manufacturing defect. I do not believe an extremely over priced car and “a marvel of German engineering” will start driving all by itself (Unless it has Hitler’s soul in it) at that speed throwing out the driver, breaking a leg and damaging the car as well, it was going at least at 20 kms/hr. None the less, someone has to go to jail for it or get sued!
This is why many shops with parking in front have steel or concrete barriers in front of the shop. Should be mandatory.
Red herring for ELECTRONIC SUA. Only a Bandaid treatment that won’t solve the CAUSE!
How do you fix driver error?
Cases like Lee vs Toyota , Bookout vs Toyota has been proven to have ELECTRONIC SOFTWARE DEFECTS. Excuses like killer floor mats, medical issues, pedal confusion, texting, does not work any longer.
Facts always work. Your unicorn theories don’t. That’s why the Lee case is being appealed. And toyota won the Uno case, among others.
Think of ELECTRONIC SOFTWARE DEFECTS, Toyota and Lexus are known to suddenly accelerate.
They can think of unicorns and other imaginary things too. That won’t change driver error.
There was a car that broke the wall and got into the Kebab King compound diagonally opposite Woqod Petrol Station on B ring road
This was last night at 3:30am
If you pause the full video at 2:16, you will see the kid. The kid caused the accident somehow. Accident by negligence…
What are you talking about?
Toyota and Lexus are known to sudden accelerate without any input from drivers. Toyota is on probation in US for the next 3 years. Toyota has paid over $5 billion in lawsuits, repairs and fines. Let the victim and the driver know to hire attorneys and go after Toyota for it defective cars with electronic defects. Many people have been killed and injured by these defective cars. At the moment Toyota’s victims are going through mediation to get their lawsuits settled.
Yes! See the one commenter who said the driver of this vehicle complained to his dealership about an electronic FAULT! What’s the followup to this story? Looks like it’s a very controversial one for the AUTO INDUSTRY!
Driver error is serious, ignoramus.
The man was not even in the car when the car accelerated. What is Toyota known as admitted crook going to do about these defective, runaway cars, I guess is cheaper to settle lawsuits than fixing them.
Idiot, this wasn’t a Toyota. There’s no cure for stupid people as you prove.
Toyota and Lexus are #1 in cases of sudden unintended acceleration and FORD is #2. The current unintended acceleration plaguing newer vehicles is the electronically-induced type. The engine throttle control systems depend on computer software to command them. Sometimes glitches occur…like in some of your other electronic devices…which can cause the command to be different than what you desire. The evidence of the glitch is often undetectable after the vehicle is restarted. Unfortunately, the EDR (black box) is not always accurate as shown by expert Dr. Antony Anderson in his analysis of a 2012 Toyota Highlander. The EDR results indicated the driver was not braking when she was doing so. The EDR results are inconsistent.
The key to avoiding a horrific crash during a SUA event is whether or not the vehicle has an effective fail-safe in the event a glitch occurs. If it does not, as in the case of the glitch-prone Toyota ETCS-i, then the vehicle may become a runaway with an ineffective means to stop it. Unfortunately, the safety standards aren’t as strict in automobiles as they are in airplanes. Some manufacturers have more effective fail-safes than others. In the case of Toyota, an embedded software expert, Michael Barr (see Oklahoma Bookout vs. Toyota court case involving a 2005 Camry) found that an electronic glitch could induce a SUA event. Another expert, Dr. Henning Leidecker, found that a SUA event could also be triggered by “tin whisker” formation, particularly in 2002-2006 Toyota Camry vehicles.
SUA events have been DEADLY for vehicle occupants as well as pedestrians and people in storefronts, buildings, and even homes. The numbers of such crashes are ever-increasing with the advent of the very complex ELECTRONIC throttle control systems.
With the increase in such serious vehicle crashes, there is a concerted effort to show driver “pedal misapplication” or a “medical condition” or some other reason for the incident…anything other than a vehicle defect. Investigators aren’t scrutinizing the buggy electronic throttle control software or other conditions that can elicit a terrifying sudden unintended acceleration incident. They usually just examine the *mechanical* causes which tend to be just red herrings in these cases. Investigators simply don’t have the expertise to find such electronic glitches. In fact, the staff at the NHTSA, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, do not have this very specialized training!
Think of it…the next step in electronically-controlled vehicles seems to be so-called “self-driving cars.” Do YOU want to be in a such a vehicle when there is no evidence that strict safety standards, particularly in the throttle control system’s software, have been adhered to? Will you just BLINDLY trust the automaker (criminally-investigated and nearly-prosecuted Toyota and soon-to-be GM and others?) to come through for you and your family’s safety *on its own*?
A recently published Huffington Post article by Jonathan Handel,
How Do We Know Driverless Cars Are Safe? Google Says ‘Trust Us’
Posted: 07/01/2014 7:23 pm EDT Updated: 07/02/2014 1:48 pm EDT speaks to these very issues and poses tough questions about Google’s “driverless” vehicles. Educate yourself carefully before you put your faith in automakers who have knowingly lied to their customers and the government for decades. Study the issue of vehicle electronic sudden unintended acceleration and ask WHY we aren’t seeing it addressed publicly. WHY is blame placed on the driver with little more than speculation about which pedal was used or with little more than an assumption on medical condition. This is being done *even when the drivers steadfastly cite a VEHICLE PROBLEM as the cause of the crash. Absence of proof is not proof of absence of a serious ELECTRONIC computer glitch or other electronically-caused SUA.
Charlene Blake
Ah, more spam with the paid hack Antony…soooo desperate, huh, Ignoramus?
CLASSIC *parking lot* sudden unintended acceleration in this case.
1) driver pulls into or out of a parking space/spot with braking
2) engine revs loudly…ROARING…
3) open throttle vehicle TAKES OFF, often jumping curbs, climbing embankments, crossing medians
4) CRASHES into storefront, building, or homes with bulldozer-like power
5) wheels continue spinning AFTER impact, squealing and burning rubber until smoke fills space
6) driver in a state of shock about what just happened
7) IF death or injury to others, driver’s reputation slammed and charges filed
THEN…police and automaker rule DRIVER ERROR (or “medical condition” or “elderly” or “impaired”) because we must NOT blame the highly-complex, computer-driven, electronic glitch-prone vehicle!!
BEWARE of auto industry-known initial low-speed or no-speed ELECTRONIC sudden unintended acceleration! This type of #SUA is far more common than you think!
Charlene McCarthy Blake
More cut and paste spam…
PR spin by automaker, law enforcement, and media in full force? Do they desperately desire the final report to say “pedal misapplication” in order to deflect from the ELECTRONICS of the computer-controlled throttle control system?
Let’s see if the driver is hung out to dry publicly as so many have been in these crashes into storefronts, buildings, and homes. Jail time for drivers has been levied with nothing more than ruling out the mechanical causes. In cases of Toyota and Lexus, inconsistent and inaccurate EDR information has been used to falsely incriminate SUA crash victims. Character assassinations in the media prior to concrete evidence presentation seem to be the norm.
Are automakers nervous that the truth will be revealed publicly? Why are so many of the articles about such SUA events lacking in pertinent details, like make, model, and model year? Why aren’t the exact words of the driver stated? Why is there usually immediate speculation that the driver pressed the wrong pedal? These late model vehicles are *computer-controlled*. Glitches occur often. Critical safety standards aren’t strictly regulated and fail-safes have been found to be ineffective by experts in the embedded software field.
Think about how often you reboot your electronic devices. Have you considered that an electronically-driven vehicle has many of the same “glitch” issues? Are you erroneously assuming that your safety has been ensured by the auto manufacturer? Just know, the auto industry is not regulated like the airline industry. Educate yourself on this critical safety matter.
The Car Wash Association knows the truth about sudden unintended acceleration in late model vehicles, particularly Chryslers. A FastStop Car Wash just admitted that there is a list of the most common vehicles to suddenly accelerate. After an employee was thrown from a Ford Expedition as it careened out-of-control from a car wash and into a power box on the side of a building, this information was revealed by the media. In addition, Honda has just become the first automaker to address electronic throttle control software problems.
Why doesn’t the public have access to the most-often-to-suddenly-accelerate vehicle list? How hard are the automakers trying to keep such information hidden? Will what you do not know ultimately put you or your family in unnecessary jeopardy? Will the PR agenda of the automakers continue to push for a “pedal misapplication” final report in these crash events?
How long will the flawed study into Toyota and Lexus sudden unintended acceleration by NASA/NHTSA be touted as a reason to blame the vehicle owners? How often will the old Audi SUA investigation be cited by online PR trolls in an effort to justify immediate incrimination of the driver victims? More importantly, how long will the public be deceived?
Why was Toyota whistleblower Betsy Benjaminson recently issued a subpoena by Toyota Motor Corporation? Is this an on-going effort by the automaker to silence the exposure of Toyota internal documents related to the electronic sudden unintended acceleration? Why hasn’t Ms. Benjaminson’s information been covered by the U.S. media as it has been overseas? More importantly, why hasn’t the U.S. Department of Justice made reference to this information in its recent criminal investigation of Toyota? Why have we only heard about *mechanical* causes of SUA?
Something is amiss. Doesn’t the public deserve to know the truth? After all, electronic sudden unintended acceleration affects everyone, not just vehicle drivers. Pedestrians and storefront occupants have been killed or maimed. Even residents in homes have been impacted. SUA events are not just occurring on the highways; they are happening in parking lots and from a standstill at traffic stops, too.
This serious problem isn’t just about elderly drivers, drivers with medical conditions, or impaired drivers as a seemingly pervasive PR effort might have you believe. This is about vehicles out-of-control because of electronic glitches and ineffective fail-safes. This is about unregulated critical safety standards in complex electronically-controlled vehicles.
Charlene McCarthy Blake
The same unicorn theories….insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result…
Most Toyota SUA victims use the word “terrifying” in their description of the crashes or even in the event without a crash, IF they are lucky enough to stop the vehicle before it crashes! The witness said “horrific” and that word is also used a lot to describe these frightening events of unintended ELECTRONIC acceleration.
These accidents are described as a “freak” or “bizarre” because of the erratic behavior of the vehicles at the time of the incidents. Drivers are “shocked” or “dazed” or “confused” afterwards as you can imagine ANYONE would be!
This isn’t about age, medical condition, or any other cause superficial to the ACTUAL no-speed or low-speed to AIRBORNE speed in seconds electronic cause of such accidents.
Make no mistake about it…there is a Big PR push to make sure the driver is found to be at fault…even if it means conjuring up the most “handy” excuse possible. A real Toyota Corolla victim tells all about Toyota’s coercion (a.k.a. BULLY) techniques on Twitter. It is NOT funny what the automaker is doing to their own customers when the customers come to them to report this serious safety issue happening in their vehicles!
If you read comment sections on these articles, you see a lot of inappropriate joking going on at the car crash victim’s expense. It happens time and time again if you take the time to track the articles about these horrific crashes. Think that’s innocent? Think again.
Charlene Blake
No, Ignoramus, driver error. This didn’t even involve a Toyota. You’re dumber than usual today. How is that possible?
@charleneblake: Toyota Land Cruiser VIDEO REMOVED? Age-profiling, #Toyota “elderly driver error” excuse? Others in #Qatar too! #deadly #SUA #coverup
@ignoramus: moron propaganda? Jumping to stupid conclusions, #fact denier? Other garbage too! #ignorant #DUM #psychotic
WHY all the Toyota vehicles crashing through storefronts? ELECTRONIC throttle software GLITCHES! Bookout v Toyota October 2013!
Because of driver error. This wasn’t even a Toyota, ignoramus. Uno vs. Toyota October 2013!
What is the MAKE, MODEL, & MODEL year of the crash vehicle? How does “black SUV” help?
It doesn’t matter. It wasn’t a toyota.
WATCH VIDEO of this commenter posted VERY SLOWLY! Driver NOT in seat? The black SUV’s door is STILL OPEN!
OMG! YOUR brain is DISENTIGRATING VERY SLOWLY!
CLASSIC *parking lot* sudden unintended acceleration in this case.
1) driver pulls into or out of a parking space/spot with braking
2) engine revs loudly…ROARING…
3) open throttle vehicle TAKES OFF, often jumping curbs, climbing embankments, crossing medians
4) CRASHES into storefront, building, or homes with bulldozer-like power
5) wheels continue spinning AFTER impact, squealing and burning rubber until smoke fills space
6) driver in a state of shock about what just happened
7) IF death or injury to others, driver’s reputation slammed and charges filed
THEN…police and automaker rule DRIVER ERROR (or “medical condition” or “elderly” or “impaired”) because we must NOT blame the highly-complex, computer-driven, electronic glitch-prone vehicle!!
BEWARE of auto industry-known initial low-speed or no-speed ELECTRONIC sudden unintended acceleration! This type of #SUA is far more common than you think!
Charlene McCarthy Blake
No, Ignoramus, driver error
Toyota and Lexus are #1 in cases of sudden unintended acceleration and FORD is #2. The current unintended acceleration plaguing newer vehicles is the electronically-induced type. The engine throttle control systems depend on computer software to command them. Sometimes glitches occur…like in some of your other electronic devices…which can cause the command to be different than what you desire. The evidence of the glitch is often undetectable after the vehicle is restarted. Unfortunately, the EDR (black box) is not always accurate as shown by expert Dr. Antony Anderson in his analysis of a 2012 Toyota Highlander. The EDR results indicated the driver was not braking when she was doing so. The EDR results are inconsistent.
The key to avoiding a horrific crash during a SUA event is whether or not the vehicle has an effective fail-safe in the event a glitch occurs. If it does not, as in the case of the glitch-prone Toyota ETCS-i, then the vehicle may become a runaway with an ineffective means to stop it. Unfortunately, the safety standards aren’t as strict in automobiles as they are in airplanes. Some manufacturers have more effective fail-safes than others. In the case of Toyota, an embedded software expert, Michael Barr (see Oklahoma Bookout vs. Toyota court case involving a 2005 Camry) found that an electronic glitch could induce a SUA event. Another expert, Dr. Henning Leidecker, found that a SUA event could also be triggered by “tin whisker” formation, particularly in 2002-2006 Toyota Camry vehicles.
SUA events have been DEADLY for vehicle occupants as well as pedestrians and people in storefronts, buildings, and even homes. The numbers of such crashes are ever-increasing with the advent of the very complex ELECTRONIC throttle control systems.
With the increase in such serious vehicle crashes, there is a concerted effort to show driver “pedal misapplication” or a “medical condition” or some other reason for the incident…anything other than a vehicle defect. Investigators aren’t scrutinizing the buggy electronic throttle control software or other conditions that can elicit a terrifying sudden unintended acceleration incident. They usually just examine the *mechanical* causes which tend to be just red herrings in these cases. Investigators simply don’t have the expertise to find such electronic glitches. In fact, the staff at the NHTSA, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, do not have this very specialized training!
Think of it…the next step in electronically-controlled vehicles seems to be so-called “self-driving cars.” Do YOU want to be in a such a vehicle when there is no evidence that strict safety standards, particularly in the throttle control system’s software, have been adhered to? Will you just BLINDLY trust the automaker (criminally-investigated and nearly-prosecuted Toyota and soon-to-be GM and others?) to come through for you and your family’s safety *on its own*?
A recently published Huffington Post article by Jonathan Handel,
How Do We Know Driverless Cars Are Safe? Google Says ‘Trust Us’
Posted: 07/01/2014 7:23 pm EDT Updated: 07/02/2014 1:48 pm EDT speaks to these very issues and poses tough questions about Google’s “driverless” vehicles. Educate yourself carefully before you put your faith in automakers who have knowingly lied to their customers and the government for decades. Study the issue of vehicle electronic sudden unintended acceleration and ask WHY we aren’t seeing it addressed publicly. WHY is blame placed on the driver with little more than speculation about which pedal was used or with little more than an assumption on medical condition. This is being done *even when the drivers steadfastly cite a VEHICLE PROBLEM as the cause of the crash. Absence of proof is not proof of absence of a serious ELECTRONIC computer glitch or other electronically-caused SUA.
Charlene Blake
No, Ignoramus, driver error. This didn’t even involve a toyota.
DRIVERLESS surging of this vehicle? What’s wrong with the electronics of this computer-controlled vehicle? Family needs to preserve the evidence! Automaker will read EDR and blame driver! BUT looks like driver not even yet in car!
No, Ignoramus, driver error.
Toyota and Lexus are #1 in cases of sudden unintended acceleration and FORD is #2. The current unintended acceleration plaguing newer vehicles is the electronically-induced type. The engine throttle control systems depend on computer software to command them. Sometimes glitches occur…like in some of your other electronic devices…which can cause the command to be different than what you desire. The evidence of the glitch is often undetectable after the vehicle is restarted. Unfortunately, the EDR (black box) is not always accurate as shown by expert Dr. Antony Anderson in his analysis of a 2012 Toyota Highlander. The EDR results indicated the driver was not braking when she was doing so. The EDR results are inconsistent.
The key to avoiding a horrific crash during a SUA event is whether or not the vehicle has an effective fail-safe in the event a glitch occurs. If it does not, as in the case of the glitch-prone Toyota ETCS-i, then the vehicle may become a runaway with an ineffective means to stop it. Unfortunately, the safety standards aren’t as strict in automobiles as they are in airplanes. Some manufacturers have more effective fail-safes than others. In the case of Toyota, an embedded software expert, Michael Barr (see Oklahoma Bookout vs. Toyota court case involving a 2005 Camry) found that an electronic glitch could induce a SUA event. Another expert, Dr. Henning Leidecker, found that a SUA event could also be triggered by “tin whisker” formation, particularly in 2002-2006 Toyota Camry vehicles.
SUA events have been DEADLY for vehicle occupants as well as pedestrians and people in storefronts, buildings, and even homes. The numbers of such crashes are ever-increasing with the advent of the very complex ELECTRONIC throttle control systems.
With the increase in such serious vehicle crashes, there is a concerted effort to show driver “pedal misapplication” or a “medical condition” or some other reason for the incident…anything other than a vehicle defect. Investigators aren’t scrutinizing the buggy electronic throttle control software or other conditions that can elicit a terrifying sudden unintended acceleration incident. They usually just examine the *mechanical* causes which tend to be just red herrings in these cases. Investigators simply don’t have the expertise to find such electronic glitches. In fact, the staff at the NHTSA, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, do not have this very specialized training!
Think of it…the next step in electronically-controlled vehicles seems to be so-called “self-driving cars.” Do YOU want to be in a such a vehicle when there is no evidence that strict safety standards, particularly in the throttle control system’s software, have been adhered to? Will you just BLINDLY trust the automaker (criminally-investigated and nearly-prosecuted Toyota and soon-to-be GM and others?) to come through for you and your family’s safety *on its own*?
A recently published Huffington Post article by Jonathan Handel,
How Do We Know Driverless Cars Are Safe? Google Says ‘Trust Us’
Posted: 07/01/2014 7:23 pm EDT Updated: 07/02/2014 1:48 pm EDT speaks to these very issues and poses tough questions about Google’s “driverless” vehicles. Educate yourself carefully before you put your faith in automakers who have knowingly lied to their customers and the government for decades. Study the issue of vehicle electronic sudden unintended acceleration and ask WHY we aren’t seeing it addressed publicly. WHY is blame placed on the driver with little more than speculation about which pedal was used or with little more than an assumption on medical condition. This is being done *even when the drivers steadfastly cite a VEHICLE PROBLEM as the cause of the crash. Absence of proof is not proof of absence of a serious ELECTRONIC computer glitch or other electronically-caused SUA.
Charlene Blake
Calm down, Ignoramus. You just spammed a dozen times on here with your garbage propaganda. Are you okay? Did you have a mental breakdown? You just seen more desperate than normal, which is impossible….
“Driver error” is a catch-all excuse used by automakers to divert attention away from serious safety defects, it seems. There is insufficient regulation of safety standards in the automobile industry, especially in the area of complex electronics. For instance, Toyota is in the lead in terms of cases of sudden unintended acceleration. I’m not referring to the SUA events involving jammed floor mats, sticky accelerator pedals, or pedal misapplication. I’m referring to the unintended acceleration and erratic ELECTRONIC throttle control system behavior that occurs when a glitch is present in the substandard software. In a recent Oklahoma court case lost by Toyota, Bookout vs. Toyota, embedded software expert Michael Barr’s findings of ETCS-i glitches were presented. Also noted was that a SUA-inducing glitch could also render an ineffective fail-safe. Translation? Your runaway Toyota could prove to be unstoppable until something impacts it.
Toyota, GM, and Chrysler, among other automakers, have hidden safety-related information from the public for far too long. Drivers’ and their passengers’ lives are at stake. In the case of sudden unintended acceleration, pedestrians have been injured and killed as well. Crashes into storefronts, buildings, and homes, are daily occurrences now and there is an extremely well-orchestrated push to conclude “driver error.” Other speculative conclusions are “medical condition” (diabetes, seizures, etc.), prescription medications, driving under the influence of something, etc. A recent far-fetched speculation was that the driver’s shoe (a teen learning to drive with her father beside her) jammed the accelerator causing the vehicle to “take off!” Don’t most teenagers wear flip-flops? Show us how a flip-flop causes this.
In the case of GM’s ignition switch, “driver error” would be the easy way out. Does GM use this conclusion despite evidence to the contrary? Are driver’s (if they survive) statements discounted or discredited as they are in the cases of Toyota sudden unintended acceleration? Usually, the automakers follow the same playbook. Be sure to read Parris Boyd’s “BEWARE of Toyota…it’s next victim may be YOU” blog and Jessie Powell’s “Route 44 Sold me a LEMON” blog to see how it’s done.
One thing is clear. GM and Toyota aren’t going to tell you anything you don’t find out on your own. It seems historically and literally, the automakers like to be “unaware” of the issues customers reveal to them. They’d much rather say their loyal customers are confused and/or causing the problems themselves. That way, their dear bottom line is not impacted negatively. And now, with all the media control via advertising and more, the automakers’ secrets can remain hidden for a whole lot longer…decades+ as shown! Add NHTSA in their back pockets, good reputation management companies, on-line customer complaint suppression, and a gaggle of attorneys, and you have an untouchable entities, don’t you? Maybe…as long as the grassroots vehicle owner groups don’t wise up and organize, like GM Recall Survivors, to demand answers and expect more from lawmakers and the automakers.
Charlene Blake