Nearly a week after Lauren Patterson was last seen alive, her remains have been positively identified by dental records, a family friend has told Doha News.
With the confirmation of her death, relatives have revealed horrific details about what they believe to be the 24-year-old’s final hours.
Speaking to the Daily Mail while in Doha, Alison Patterson, the 58-year-old mother of the deceased, said her eldest child is believed to have been stabbed to death by an acquaintance.
The man, which the UK tabloid identified as Qatari, had given Patterson and her friend a ride home when leaving a nightclub at La Cigale in the early hours of Saturday, Oct. 12.
According to the family, which has thus far only spoken to the Daily Mail, the man is said to have dropped her friend off and then taken Patterson back to his home, where she was allegedly stabbed to death.
It is unclear whether a sexual assault took place, because Patterson’s remains are too badly burned to tell. The Mail, which posted its report online around 1am this morning and removed it without explanation 12 hours later, continues:
“The alleged killer and an accomplice then drove her miles out of the capital Doha and dug a pit in the desert which they filled with charcoal before pouring petrol on her body, setting it alight and fleeing.
The blaze was so intense that her body was reduced to ashes apart from a piece of her skull and her feet.”
Patterson’s body was found the same day, when a Qatari hunter and his falcon discovered the burning corpse, the Mail reports – a story corroborated by a Doha News source as well.
Police apparently laid in wait and arrested the alleged accomplice to Patterson’s murder when he returned to the scene several hours later. The police reportedly found petrol cans with the man’s fingerprints on them, and a knife was found with the burned remains.
According to the Mail, the acquaintance was also brought in, both men have both confessed and would face the death penalty if found guilty of murder – though notably, Qatar has had a stay on executions for the past decade. The Ministry of Interior has announced the arrest of two suspects, but offered no further details on the case.
Frantic hours
Patterson’s mother and Malta-based boyfriend first began an online campaign to find the teacher on Sunday afternoon, but only hours later announced on Facebook mourned her loss.
British media initially reported a number of inaccuracies regarding the case, including that Patterson’s body was found in a dumpster and that her body was identified by a distinctive tattoo.
The Mail now reports that despite difficulty in identifying her body, a mouth brace that appeared to belong to Patterson had survived the fire, leading her loved ones to expect the worst.
Online tributes have been pouring in for Patterson, who taught kindergarten students at Newton British School. Parents here told Doha News that they are shocked and saddened by the tragedy.
Meanwhile, Patterson’s mother has said:
“What has happened to my daughter is absolutely terrible but I do not in any way blame Qatar. Dreadful things can happen anywhere. We have been very grateful for the work by officials in Qatar to help bring those responsible to justice.”
Thoughts?
Rest in peace Lauren Patterson
say what you want but this is what happens when you have alcohol, bars and night clubs. I know this is not always the case, but it had something to do with this horrific murder case.
RIP Lauren, and I hope those responsible are severely punished death penalty would be appropriate, I dont the murderers family to suffer for what he did, but naming and shaming would be good too.
Alcohol and music did not kill Lauren.
Music didnt kill her, but the thing that invited the person to that place and then probably led to her murder was the night club and the alcohol
No. The reason she died was because a man or men decided to kill her.
if it was nightclubs alcohol or whatever other reason then we would all be murderers, but we aren’t are we? its sick men that decide to commit such crimes… there’s something wrong with these people, you show them respect but they harass you on the streets here like you are some prostitute just because you are a foreigner and I can say this because I deal with them every day here in Qatar.
You have hit the nail on the head. Qatari’s take advantage of foreigners irrespective of who they are or where they from. They harass you where ever you are, be it at the workplace, on the roads, in malls, etc & the list can go on. What is the local law doing about this……plain nothing & just keep giving them more & more strength to continue with their bad habits. Lauren did not deserve to die this way, like you say it’s these sick Arabs who in my opinion are mental cases, they just don’t know it yet.
You don’t like Arabs much, do you!
I don’t have a problem with any religion, ethnicity or nationality but Arabs are considered to be the scum of this earth when it comes to treatment of people & women, especially if they are not from an Arab state. It is said that the Arabs hold the jewels of Islam but……!!!!! I am a Muslim, love my religion but these guys paint a very negative outlook for us all. We all want justice to be served for this horrific crime, death penalty….nothing less than this. Qatar needs to set an example & practice what they preach.
Considered to be the scum of this earth? is that your believe or thought or your also hater?
“Arabs are considered to be the scum of this earth when it comes to treatment of people & women” It’s a good thing the Prophet (SAW) wasn’t an Arab, and neither were any of his companions!
Yo! Doha NEWSSSS WHERE ART THOU??? you claim to be on the abuse alert watch when we say J E W , but when this smart alec AAM says “Arabs are considered to be the scum of this earth” you pull a see no evil, hear no evil , speak no evil. I think you probably share their views of us Arabs, eh?
I used the word “considered” & this is the worldwide opinion of the Arabs. Whether I agree or share this thought, the right belongs to me. I have no problem with the Arabs or the Arab world & I have been living in the GCC for more than 13yrs. I have seen & witnessed a lot of racial issues among the Arabs, sometimes between themselves might i add but they are thought to respect the fair skin & everyone else is just like their servants at home. Again, I dont have any issues with the Arabs but their mindset & methodology of judging people needs to change. Going for Salah 5 times a day will not help their cause (my opinion) but why lose the benefit of prayer when you have a negative mind about humanity.
You have hit the nail on the head. Qatari’s take advantage of foreigners? LET ME CLEAR IT TO YOU…………. It’s Bullshit, Next time when your in the road, mail or whatever try to be sure who’s Qatari and who’s not, wearing a Thop or Jeans doesn’t make you Qatari by all mean. I’ve English, American’s Jos friends for more then 15 years boys and girls, and never one day had problem & that’s only your personal opinion. Oh let me share another story with you, my next door neighbor is English she called me for help 2 months ago, i came out my house she was so scared i asked her are you ok, she said no, tow Qatari guys following me, Guess what? When she pointed at the car while we are outside, found out they are not Qatari, so why the hell i say Qataris all the same.
Amazing how the truth hurts mate!!!!!! Your response is more aggressive & defensive instead of actually adding to this horrific crime committed by……..yes QATARI’s.
OK why are you sure they are Qataris, have you heard anything ? and what if they are not Qataris ? what do you have to say
Clearly mentions Qatari’s & they have confessed, read the article again Aisha. I would have said otherwise if it was not mentioned as Qatari’s. Have you heard of women being followed from night clubs, bars, etc in Qatar? My wife & I have on numerous occasions given single women lifts to their residence simply because they were being hounded like preys by whom………..yes u guessed it, Arabs. Did you see westerners following taxi’s to these women’s residence or perhaps I am wrong here. Is this an example of the law in Qatar where the female community are not safe from enjoying themselves? Women are their weakest when they are having fun yet these animals think otherwise & have their own agenda. Lauren was the victim, she was not the PREDATOR!!!!!
if you are talking about the daily mail article? you know it has been removed for some reason right ? also the animals you talking about are everywhere even where you come from!! my question is what if they are not Qataris? this is just a question I’m not picking a fight or siding with anyone
For now we have to believe the media & it is still mentioned in the above article.
“The man, which the UK tabloid identified as Qatari”
Can you think of a reason as to why it was removed? Many issues involving locals are swept under the carpet here so as to maintain their supposed innocence & not paint a black picture to the outside world. If they prove that they are non Qatari’s then whoever they are must get the full punishment of the law, which is also applicable where I come from, no leniency irrespective of nationality. I have nothing against “any nationality” & have lived among Qatari’s for more than 13yrs. I can guarantee you it was never this bad when we first arrived here or never heard of such heinous crimes, so what has changed? Why has this beautiful little state changed? My opinion is that nightclubs & bars must not allow single men to enter, strictly couples & this will negate incidents such as the case of poor Lauren, God Bless Her Soul!!!!!
They clearly mentioned, she found at dumpster? Then the lights come out and Dailymail news Was wrong right?????? So why should we believe news paper before i found out the truth…
AAM, No one said she was predator but can you answer my question please.
1-Can you tell who’s Qatari & Who’s not?
2-what is Arab means to your believe?
1. No one can say this besides the media & is still mentioned in the article. For now we have to take it as it’s stated, unless proven otherwise.
2. Arab national/citizen irrespective of country. On the other hand, I defend the Arab world all the time & believe in the faith, hence the disappointment to hear that Arabs where involved.
Anything further habibi, dont be afraid to check in with me again!!!!! Have a great evening.
Ain’t afraid of nothing i did wrong, remember its freedom of speech & i guess you know nothing comes out from the Media is always really mate a wise man like you should hold until you found the truth.
I know many of my western girl friends who have had that experience. And like a spoiled brat when they don’t get what they want… When you’re brought up with NO not being in the vocabulary you think the whole world is your oyster.
Shall i laugh or ignore your message, I’m defensive because of your way of thinking, but trust me i’m laughing here because, of the way you think we all bad, And u said u lived here for 13 years and what happen to the pretty small state, i guess you need to think twice before you say a words, And i don’t agree with you about clubs should be only couple. I’m Pro Music Producer & DJ, i guess by saying this everyone knows who i am now, And i can sure you few Qatari’s they are into the clubs, it seems your 13 years living here, still didn’t discover Qatar right. Let’s go back to the point, we all feel bad to what happen to Lauren & god rest her soul,
but i do believe you said Qataris, and arab are scum of the worlds, right? So that’s goes from murder to personal hate. So u expected me to say oh yes your right.
I guess you are not well traveled such as myself to hear what people talk about the Arab world. I always defend them because I believe in religion & the roots of Islam belongs to the Arab & Islam does not teach this, or does it, please enlighten me? This is the reason that I am disgusted that this crime was committed by Arabs & my family & I moved to Qatar mainly for the Islamic culture, well so much for that isnt it? What will I tell the people whom have pointed fingers as Arabs being the scums & say yes AAM i told you so & there u go now u have the proof right in front of you. How do I respond to this besides saying that this is not what Islam & Qatar teaches/preaches & these criminals will bear the full brunt of the Qatari law. I dont hate anyone, i just dont like people such as the ones who committed this crime. I never said Qatari’s are scums, read it again!!!!! It was a general statement on Arabs…….again which is the perception of the outside world quoted by me. If you are an Arab then at least I have enlightened you on what the world thinks of Arabs.
As for who u are, I dont u & never heard of you but good luck with your DJ’ing & producing.
AAM, I go under the name YOUNGS2AR, Music producer of House Music and have big profile, I’m talking loud and clear its never show off or anything. And i thank you for stand for Arab among others when they don’t know what is Islam, I also do that my self and i know our Islam never told us go kill and walk away because your Arab or Qatari, If you read carefully I’m against what he did or whoever did it and if i am judge i will give him the max. understand from the way you talk your pilot, but let’s clear this i do traveled lot and never heard it on my face, I always if you consider your self a man please by my guest and come say it loud and clear on my face or come to my house for tea and say it, and i will explain we are not what you think who we are. It’s the media.
PS. nothing personal.
I knew it was you from the beginning dude. 😉
Nothing to hide mate, i always use my real name nothing to be shamed off.
AAM an appalling sentiment in my book. It is so easy to stereotype. Just recently in the UK a young French student was horrifically murdered on a train that a br Tishri man. That says Nothing about British men or the general attitude of Brits to French women.
I Suggs , if you find living in an Arab nation so dreadful, you go home. Lauren was murdered , by individuals, not a nation or an ethnic type
Your damn right.
Nope..this person is prolly a convert to Islam, but was mistreated by the muslim that may have played some role in their life, and now theyre taking it out on “All arabs”!…AAMs’ sweeping generalisations are simply poor debate
Correction ….. Guest said ‘ its sick men…. ‘. NOT ‘its these sick arabs’. You are misquoting him.
Unfortunately for you my friend, all these men involved are Arabs!!!!!!!! so the word fits their profile because this is what they really are, SICK!!!!
Sadly all these animals where Arabs & they are certainly mentally sick!!!!
I hear you! And you’re planning to leave Qatar when? 🙂
Don’t say that; it’s big haram here for a Qatari to say to someone, “leave if you don’t like it.” Expats can say it to one another, but we cannot say it to them. Kind of like the N word 😉 And if you don’t like this policy, they’ll tell you “you can leave and go elsewhere to comment” :p
Highly doubtful…Their Aryan supremacist colonising attitude means nothing to me and as a Qatari on your own turf, it shouldn’t to you either, and no , its not haram to tell them to leave, from the anti-Islam and anti-Qatar nonsense they’re spewing on here, it’s highly halal!
As for policy, this site has enough archived material to place in precariously deep enough water to build a legal case against it. E7na fe bladna ou nenhaan ba3ad…la namat 3eyoun iljubana!
If it means nothing then SU!
Idiot…
it’s a generalization to say alcohol and music was responsible, in the same way one might generalize about gambling or drug use affecting society and conceptions of what is right and wrong; counter argument guns don’t kill people, people kill people, the majority of the people can buy a gun for legitimate purposes, the minority will bring violence into society because of it. Alcohol, nightclubs, partying and dancing for the those maladjusted can be a fuel for violence, which could be why you see more fights in nightclubs and bars than in restaurants and coffee shops, it’s why these places have security; if Lauren’s killer(s) are from this part of the world religiously speaking, then they shouldn’t have been at a club, or drinking or driving around with women anyways! Ultimately, whatever the catalyst was, this person(s) is responsible, and should pay the price and will eventually pay the price in one lifetime or the other, whatever complex mental, societal, or other problems this person had that led to this violence should be and will be to an extent examined and evaluated by individuals, families, communities and enforcement agencies to understand and try to prevent these things from happening; and those who frequent bars and clubs I’m sure will take steps to ensure their friends and loved ones are looked after. RIP to Lauren, her pain is over, and may her loved ones be strong and patient in this trying time
Are you seriously suggesting where she went had anything to do with her murder? You sir are an idiot. If she has a Starbucks and a shawarma would you blame those evil
Vices for being stabbed to death?
hey Mods, is this person allowed to call me an idiot for my opinion?
Well three votes down already suggests to me, that some people agree with me….
OK, I take back the comment you are an idiot but your opinion/accussations that going to a nightclub lead to her murder is an iditotic comment.
Seriously? You’re crying to the moderators because someone disagrees with you and called you an idiot?
Newsflash: this isn’t primary school and we’re not on the playground.
Grow up and grow a pair.
Jeez…
Haven’t you keyed on already…the Mods here and Doha News and their motley crew of regular Qatar-Islam haters are here just to insult us….This undermines good journalism, Waste of a North Western University education if you ask me, if they’re reducing journalism to nothing but a Anti Qatar campaign, akin to that of the jerry springer show..Which is odd, its inexcusible!..They all hate Qatar but they cling onto us for dear life, even the ones that leave Qatar, cant seem to get Qatar out of their heads! I guess pride can be bought, by the Qatari riyal, otherwise they would have all placed their money where they’re mouth is and left already!
Just like you do not want people to hate Islam, Qatar and Qataris because of the doing of some stupid people. You too should not generalize others. 2 wrongs never make a right.
No we are all here to bleed the country dry of all it’s wealth then leave it in tatters. LOL You’re the one with the problem. Your post are either extreme anti west/expat, homophobic, discriminatory against anyone non Qatari or Judenhass. Sometimes all in one post.
Dear, I am not an Islam hater. And apologies, we are a small team and can’t always keep up with the comments. Please flag the ones you find offensive/to be in violation of our comment policy to bring them to our attention faster.
Also, we are not in Qatar for the money. We’ve spent all of our savings on Doha News. We’re running this site as a public service.
I agree with the death penalty, but that alcohol,bars and night clubs is the cause….In many countries they do not have alcohol,bars and night clubs, yet they have high crime and murders..
What a ridiculous comment!
I also find it quite disgraceful that you would use this tragic death to try and push your political agenda!
Using your logic we should also Ban:
-Hotels
-Cars
-Roads
-Knives
-Petrol
-Qatari Men
As these all had something to do with this horrific murder!
May I add:
-Desert
-BBQ Charcoal
-Spades
Oxygen, yes oxygen the tool of the devil. All crimes can be related back to the fact that the criminal breathed in oxygen before, during and after the crime. Time for it to be banned in Qatar, to achieve 100% safety.
I have a better suggestion of what should be banned from Qatar 😉
From your post on other articles as well I’d say you mean anything that’s not sunnah. Correct? I’m sure you don’t mean expats because then the country would implode.
Maybe we can add homes too if I remember correctly as the last teacher that was murdered was at home.However alcohol can influence peoples actions,but to say it was one of the root causes here is stretching it longer than a Hummer limo(double size one)
Thousands of people go to the bars and clubs in Qatar- they don’t murder people. This was a criminal act by, not some drunken spree. As for naming and shaming- the families are not responsible for the actions of a family member- these men acted on their own volition. Nor is the victim guilty, she was the victim.
Blaming alcohol, bars, dancing is a total cop out, not to mention totally illogical. As you said in your own comment, “those responsible,” i.e. the human beings (not inanimate objects) are at fault here.
Court case, few yrs in jail (big if) together with some blood money & they will be free, this is the rude truth about the law here…..for locals only but an expat will feel the full rule of the law.
Blood money isn’t for murder… It can be accepted for manslaughter.
Are you telling me that this was not a premeditated killing? Everything these animals did was premeditated & planned. Murder is murder irrespective of the circumstance & you are also innocent until found guilty or confess to the crime. You dont have the right to kill another person. Blood money is an escape route for life sentence or the death penalty.
I’m simply saying this looks like murder, and not manslaughter… Blood money is NOT an escape route for life sentence or the death penalty.
Do you believe in the methodology of kill & be killed, an eye for an eye? What would u say is the correct punishment for this heinous crime?
Reminder:
Murder= somebody wants to kill somebody, and kills them.
Manslaughter=somebody doesn’t want to kill and somebody dies by mistake.
Out of curiosity, is blood money ever required or given in cases of murder? I don’t mean to buy one’s way out of punishment (you already made that clear). I just genuinely wonder whether it is used in straightforward murder cases.
What about the other guy Nasser Al-Naimi we keep hearing about? Will he be deported from Saudi Arabia? Is there such a treaty between Qatar and Saudi Arabia?
So he wasn’t amongst the two that were arrested? I heard that the man who ran away to Saudi returned & got arrested.
I hope that is true. I thought there are 3 guys, 2 arrested and the 3rd one ran away.
He’s just an ex boyfriend. not a suspect. Dohanews didn’t bring him up only one of the commenters. ngorlikay or something
Yep, he brought up the name of the boyfriend and accused Doha News of self censorship for not publishing the name of the boyfriend. Some seemed to agree with him!
Let’s see if this Qatari suspect somehow gets “replaced” by another suspect of different nationality. It’s going to be difficult to sweep this one under the rug now that the international media is involved… time for some actual justice?
Do we in fact know if the 2 suspects are in fact Qataris?
no not really we just have to wait and see (:
So why are they blaming the Qataris?
Because… 😉
do u agree with what i think that some are hoping they are Qataris?
Very much so.
not sure why,but even if it is or not justice will be made soon so lets hope for the best and to be honest i think people are hoping they are Qatari more than others
Because they ARE Qataris.
According to this, it sounds like the prosecution has been given an easy case to win. Let’s hope justice is served.
RIP Lauren and to the murderers … may god have mercy on your soul.
May your soul find peace wherever you are
Strange world .. IF a Asian i.e Nepali would have got killed .. no one would have care .. Human rights are made from those who have Green card ..
Err she was a Brit not an American. Get your prejudices right please
he didn’t say she was American
OK I will explain. A green card is the common term for someone who has the right to permamently work and live in the USA who is not yet an American citizen. That person was implying that Qatar is racist and only cares about the blue eyes. (Now that’s a khaleeji term I am sure you are familar with…..)
“person was implying that Qatar is racist and only cares about the blue eyes.” It’s somewhat true though. Also I think not_guy meant to say passport, and not green card.
Actually I think it has less to do with race and more to do with social/economic status. Brits/Europeans/Americans usually hold the higer and better paid jobs in Qatar so if something happens to them, then themselves or their families have the means to pursue the case. They can also do that through the media as well back home as most of these countries have a free press. (Also the governments and emabssies of this countries are more active, whereas some Asian countries are worried about upsetting the locals and losing their money….)
Asians occupy all levels within Qatar but the majority are in the lower paying jobs and positions. They or their familes do not have the means to pursue such cases through the media or even their embassy and in a lot of cases they just need the blood money as they are desperate. Basically they get paid off and the case is closed.
Race and socio-economic class tend to be closely linked the world over, yet I agree with your general point.
The sad state of the arab world is that they love the white skin with blue eyes. Arabs have a habit of judging people by their skin color & this is very evident in schools as well. Most arabs have descended from Iran, Pakistan, India, etc & they really look exactly like they are from these countries especially after they remove their local dressing style. If you are white then you are right, how sad is this statement…….talk of equality & humanity, 2 criteria’s which are none existent in the arab world.
It didn’t seem to help Lauren that she was white. Murder is murder, let’s leave race out of it. It was about sex and power. The men who allegedly committed this vile act will face justice as criminals. It is not the fault of their families, it has nothing to do with nightclubs or alcohol- thousands upon thousands of people go to clubs, dance, flirt, drink to excess- they do not go on to murder someone.
O but it did just look at the bigger picture. The very fact that she was the fair skin type etc attracted these animals. Like someone said, Qatari’s love the brits & americans & you will agree that they even try to speak like them, how funny. Why dont they try these tricks on other GCC women, there are plenty of arab women in the bars & nightclubs…..erm it must be the language then or is it that they will not attempt this nonsense on their own kind. Locals are asking for these type of people to come work in Qatar simply because they have their own agenda. Qatar law needs to stand up & take responsibility for this & irrespective of local or expat, the full punishment must fit the crime.
You are acting like these guys are your every day Qatari, or Arab for that matter. Ok, fair skin might be highly prized (however prejudicially so) in this part of the world, but these guys are sociopaths. Rapists and murderers usually have a type, and maybe for these guys, it was a white woman, but her murder has nothing to do with her having white skin. It has everything to do with these men being evil for whatever reason.
There’s a huge difference between attracted to or pursuing a woman because of your preconceived notions of her character based on her race or nationality and murdering her. I presume most Qatari or Arab men who are interested in non-Arab white women can have relationships and break ups without resorting to murder.
All that said, I stand by a comment I made on an earlier post. I reckon this woman was murdered by people she trusted because she knew them. Most violence against women is not random, out of the blue. It is premeditated by those she knows and trusts. Lauren had the misfortune of getting to know the wrong people.
Had many exes and break up and still friends with them for more then 10 years or so and nothing happen. Sp who are you to judge and say to people date, black or red or tall or thin? You just remind me of of someone very sad. Oh don’t get angry because you asked for it.
How do you know that her skin attracted them?
And I never knew a Qatari that tried to speak like a Brit or American for any reason other than they were exposed to the English language by either. I only wish I could pronounce Arabic like a Khaleeji because I would be better understood 🙂
I dont think you have lived in the GCC long enough or dont have many Qatari friends or perhaps colleagues. I dont have anything against Lauren & certainly dont support what happened to her or not picking on any skin color etc, but the rude truth of what I said is very true. Qatari’s judge you by your physical appearance even before you mention a single word, they have made up their mind. I have had many run in’s with Qatari’s speaking to me in other languages & only for them to hear my response in my mother tongue (English) raised an eyebrow. Then I was treated very very differently by calling me Mr, Sir, Mudheer, etc……..u get my drift now Lisa?
AAM, I have lived in the Gulf for 15 years (teaching at a university in Qatar for 11) as well as having many Qatari & Khaleeji friends, so I spoke from extensive experience. It’s just that my experience is different from yours, although that makes neither more valid than the other. Hope you understand me now 🙂
Well noted Lisa
You are judged by everyone on your appearance which is why all interview techniques stress how important that first impression is. She was murdered. We don’t know how or why, everything is hearsay and speculation until it come to court.
Your assertion that she was somehow a victim because she white and Qatari men find her ‘type’ irresistible is in my opinion nonsense. More relevant is the fact she was female.
Which part of murder dont you understand? Again, i am not saying it is about race, color or creed. Lauren was a target because Arab men seem to have the mindset that western women are more vulnerable to having a 1 night stand etc hence these men become predators at night clubs etc. When things dont work out for them & cant get their own way, they turn to violence as in the case of poor Lauren. I will again ask: why dont these arabs try this sort of stuff on other arab nationals, think about it. What is it that attracts the arabs to western women, what is it that distracts arabs from other arab nationalities in clubs, bars, pubs, events, etc? I am eagerly awaiting your response.
Arab men are clearly very attracted to women of all nationalities, evidenced in any hotel in Qatar, and perhaps Arab men are drawn to the intelligent educated and articulate western women here- they are all professionals in their field remember. Lauren was not a pick up one night stand as you insinuate, she knew the men involved. Regardless of which, does not explain or excuse her murder. I also take issue with your assertion that Arab men think western women are more likely prey, having seen many young women in Qatar of various nationalities including Arabs who are certainly as available as any westerner, if not more so, and they are as popular with Arab males.. Availability is not a precursor to violence. Most men of any nationality know how to behave themselves , the problem is that some don’t , and that applies equally to men of every ethnicity. Qatar is filled with young single women, they should be able to enjoy the nightlife to the full here without fear of ‘predators’, although predatory males exist in every country, so most women have learnt how to deal with them.
AAM, your discussion has moved on to laying the blame at the door of the victim
I have never once said that Lauren lured them & quite rightly she is the victim. She was the prey & these animals come to clubs as singles looking for women like Lauren. Having fun is not an invite to pounce on a prey, I’m sorry but u got it all wrong my friend. Do u ever see western men chasing after single women in clubs or following them home? Cant someone have fun & just be allowed to get back home, well not so in Qatar I’m afraid. The Arab women u refer to most of the time always come with partners or with friends as a group & i have first handed witnessed how they are hounded by Arab men, yes Arab men 99% of the time.
I do however acknowledge your comment on behavior & women allowed to have a fun filled nightlife, you are indeed correct.
“How do you know that her skin attracted them?” He could be self projecting 😉
Arabs are from Arabia. And never tell an Iranian that you thought Iranians and Arabs are the same; you’ll never hear the end of it!
you mean the other way around….never tell an Arab that you think Arabs and Iranians are they same…What you suggested would fill their hearts with glee
لم أقصد القطريين من أصل إيراني. قصدت الإيرانيين “الفرس” بإيران و بالدول الغربية. الكثير منهم يحتقرون العرب بدرجة كبيرة، أكثر حتى من النظرة الدونية التي ينظرها بعض العرب للفرس أنفسهم. يرون أنفسهم على أنهم جزء من العرق الأبيض (أوروبيين). كتبت بالعربية حتى لايتسع الموضوع و يأخذ أكبر من حجمه. و مثل ما إنتي شايفة، في ناس هني تبي جنازة عشان تشبع لطم. بس الله يعيني على إلي بيجي: واي دو يو رايت إن أرابيك؟ تو أفريد!
topic. Disclaimer: I wrote in Arabic to avoid expanding this
Ilhuwila sarow 3erj abyath europeyeen! lol thats a new one, talk about reinvention, wallah their concocted identity alibi a7san min il protection program
Read for yourself 🙂
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0473075/board/nest/163301489?ref_=tt_bd_2
Actually very true, when an Iranian friend told me she was white like Europeans I just laughed. She said why are you laughing, I said maybe in Iran you are considered white but in Europe you would be considered shaded….. Her response, “what do you mean I am not white!??!”
So funny how people see themselves and when one Qatari told me another Qatari was Iranian I said who cares, he has a Qatari passport. His reponses, ‘they even speak Farsi at home”….. wow what a crime, but unlikely to be true as they had at least four generations here.
What can I tell you, some Qataris can be real picker woods 😉
Most Arabs decend from Iran, Pakistan, India etc….are you kidding me! The Najdi thorough bred tribals don’t! *deeply offended*
That was an incorrect statement, Arabs came from Africa and in fact homids who live in Iran, India and Pakistan are descended from those first migrants who travelled through Arabia. Although I would concede there was probably migration in the opposite direction later on.
offended by the truth or defending it? Now you know the feeling when Qatari’s judge people by their physical appearance, this was my point. I am glad that you felt the pain!!!!!!!
That is because, for all its faults, UK has a government that has to provide answers. Nepal had an Ambassador who provided answers and she was removed for having the temerity to do so? That is the primary difference.
Do diplomatically ‘incovenient’ British deaths get swept under the carpet? YES they do, look up John Currie in Riyadh.
Thankfully, modern media makes it more and more difficult to make inconvenience magically disappear.
RIP Lauren Patterson
“UK has a government that is obliged to provide answers” Sad but true. Also, let’s face it, Gulf Arabs just love the Brits, especially the older the generation 😉
That is true to a certain extent but it cuts both ways, if asked by the family the UK Embassy will politely push for answers and I am sure the Qatar government will give them. After all it doesn’t want to jepodise all those investments in the UK……
As for say India or Nepal, the trade is all one way and those governments either don’t want to upset Qatar or don’t want to stop the money flowing into goverment hands as after all its just the death of a poor labourer….
Me: Father (or uncle, brother, etc.), this is my British friend whom I told you about, his name is Abdul Kareem.
Father: Oh, keefhalk Abdul Kareem.
Father (in Arabic): So where is he from?
Me: He’s British, from Britain.
Father: I know, but where is he originally from?
Me: He was born in Britain.
Father: Yes, but where did his family come from?
Me: Well, his father was born in Pakistan, but moved to Britain when he was 10. His mother’s family has been there for 3 generations.
Father: Sorry son, it’s just that when you said you’re bringing a British friend I was expecting, you know…
Me: (with an awkward smile) Blue eyes and blond hair?
Father: Yeees, where can we get one of those?
“The events depicted here are fictitious. Any similarity to any person living or dead is merely coincidental.” 🙂
Typical Arab world 🙁 & perfect example Abdulrahman
If u not blonde with blue eyes then you are nothing to Arabs, you are like a servant.
So much for preaching that all humans are born equal, God does not judge so who are these people that do this?
Oh it’s not just Arabs; Africans and Asians (most Asians) too 🙂 I heard about some Chinese companies hiring White people just so that they’ll make their offices look nicer 😉
I’ve never thought of us as being racially decorative? : )
Similar to how there are probably places here that hire Qataris just so that they can show they have local staff 😉
Perish the thought! : )
You forgot to mention the Egyptians in Qatari attire to make the employer appear own old affluence….and If they’re dark in hue…the darker the better, all the more better for the show and tell wow factor..the only issue is when these workers open their mouths to say ” aaaaywa ya fandim”
No most of them do to avoid discrimination. I have an Egyptian friend who’s lived in Qatar for over 30 yrs. He does to avoid that discrimination. His sons don’t and are always bullied. That’s why my kids, and many other foreigner’s kids, don’t go to QA. Same problem.
I have a Muslim American friend (originally from the Indian subcontinent) whose son used to go to Qatar Academy. He got along fine with the Qatari kids, but was bullied by a British kid and his friends. They kept calling him a driver and such. Oddly enough the bully’s father was Jewish and his mother was black!
Guys, this is completely off topic!!
Hahahahaha u are very funny but it is true. Dont judge the book by the cover……as is the case in Qatar. But well said my friend!!!!!!
Dont judge the book by the cover……as is the case in Qatar. But well said my friend!!!!!!
Is there a decorative spectrum I wonder. Yani, the whiter you are – the more decorative.
This is the sad truth & state of the world we now live in!!!!!!!!
The young woman who was murdered had black hair
Wake up & smell the coffee or rather should I say, catch the drift that is if you understand English or understand the meaning of a metaphor.
How very true… I see it happen to Canadians all the time if they are not white, which is odd because they are immigrants to Canada as well….
What is this obsession with racial type? Shops are full of products to whiten skin here in Qatar. In the uk you can’t move for fake tan products.
That would be for the Ethiopean and Philipino community…Qataris have caught up with the out of the bottle bronze age
Jackass…
I have old friend killed in school by another Qatari, back in early 1990’s, and guess what happen to the killer? Still in Jail. lot of you speaking and thinking, oh he is Qatari he will get away out of it but the truth is not.
No doubt Qataris are in jail for murder, but because these cases are not always present in the media, you can perhaps understand why people are skeptical. When people feel information is being hidden or swept under the rug, they begin to distrust. Transparency is really important for people to feel safe and secure.
I’m sure if Transparency is there then i sure you no war or hate would have been happen in this world. So why fight the system? I’m sure your an adult like me, that’s why i see you writing is base figure and not pointing your fingers at me or saying all the Qataris are the same. Otherwise i would say oh all the guests or the blah blah is the same. People should understand the difference or where to put their words instead & i hope that’s only dissection not personal & RIP LAURAN & my condolence to her family.
I’m not sure I entirely understood your post, but even if there were transparency, I think there would indeed be conflict and war. People will disagree regardless. My point was that avoiding these feelings of distrust in relation to the Qatari judicial system in particular is quite simple. All it would/will take is for the necessary entities to make available the judicial process and allow a truly free press. There is a lack of trust here, and you must remember that many expats don’t really know Qataris and only have the rumor mill to function by. Myself, I talk to Qataris every single day, but I realize I am in a unique position. I see and hear first hand that the problems in the community are not unlike my own. It’s just that they are far from out in the open. Humans are humans regardless of race, creed, religion. I truly believe that!
I agree with you 100% & i respect your honesty and trust me, I’m Qatari an i say it out loud, i hope the killer will get what he deserve. You have great point here and very straight, Expats don’t really know Qataris and only have the rumor. To make the story short, Shouldn’t we all listen and see first, then judge. I know the press cant speak up wildly open or allowed and even US Qataris sometime we don’t know the truth because its hiding but i do believe Human is Human & must be a bigger reason then what both of us know. You & I are only tools. i left UK back in 2002 because i seen murder front of my eyes, a guy pulled his gun shot the black girl. Does it mean all the british are bad?
We should first listen, but unless there’s something to listen to, people will speculate. People love to gossip! It’s perhaps why your society is as closed as it is. I can’t imagine seeing a murder. That’s horrible, and I’m sorry you witnessed that. Thank God not all Brits are bad. I’m one actually, but I digress… Let’s just hope that this incident serves as a reminder that there’s a lot for us all to learn about treating each other with respect and dignity. I hope the men get what they deserve and repent.
Rest in peace. Qatar was once a much peaceful place… I hope things get better, may God protect Qatar from all these tragedies. It’s just sad!
I wonder if Ms. Patterson is the only victim of these animals? It wouldn’t surprise me if during their investigations police find other victims, normally with this type of crime there is a pattern of escalation. I hope I’m wrong..
What a horrible thought! I hope it’s not true either, but…
If I was to conjecture……
I would suspect rape as you have very little chance of getting caught and convicted on that crime, but murder I doubt very much but then again it depends on the target.
That’s what I was thinking. As I said normally there is a pattern of escalation that in this case sadly escalated to the point of murder. It really is a horrible thought but it wouldn’t surprise me at all if there was a history of sexual assault amongst some if not all of the individuals involved.
They should be tortured for countless hours and burnt alive, these disgusting scumbags should rot in hell!
A medieval punishment for medieval behaviour, but not much good for advancing the morals of some young males.
Keep them alive and incarcerated. Then use them as a living example of wretched misery to educate school age boys about why it is a bad idea to treat women like meat?
It may even do some good?
how primitive!…..that would lower your human being status into a monster, like them
who are you referring as a monster did you get info about the murderer ?
Unless you know for a fact & can prove that the deceased went to the desert alone,dug a pit,stabbed herself,then set herself alight & jumped into the pit,the rest of us mere mortals are assuming someone murdered her,then placed her in the pit & set her on fire based on published evidence thus far.
And that someone is a monster because if I’m not wrong,these aren’t the actions of a civilized human being.
You are talking in circles. Aisha is asking for the name, as in an individual.
Surly such information should not be made public? There is supposed to be a fair trial. In the Uk, reporting is resricted
The name of the accused would not be kept secret. Also, I don’t think these cases are decided by a jury here, which I believe to be the case in the UK.
Someone’s definitely talking in circles,it’s not me though! A name is immaterial,WHOEVER did this was referred to as a monster & rightly so.
Kindly enlighten us how & why the name of the guilty alters the level of monstrosity of the crime?!
what are you talking about ? i was just asking if they got any info who said anything about her killing her self ,, they called the murderer a monster i though they knew more info that’s all. why are you so aggressive
Her question was ambiguous but I believe she is not sympathizing with these murderers. She was enquiring if Magic had anymore details about these scumbags.
It doesn’t alter the monstrosity, but you clearly did not understand Aisha’s query. I was trying to help clarify. She wasn’t trying to pick a fight with you. She was genuinely curious as to whether you had more information. For some reason, perhaps comprehension, you went off the deep end.
Where did you get she’s asking for the name ?? I don’t see it …
“who are you referring as a monster did you get info about the murderer ?”
will you please let me know who are the disgusting scumbags ?
I think that’s obvious. Or are you an apologists for those confessing to the crime?
what ?? this is a question ?
I too am puzzled … Why did you ask Magic if he/she knew the murderer ?? Do enlighten us ? Your question makes me think..’ Maybe you know the murderers ‘. Do you ??
OK i was asking for info that’s all and magic did reply and said no why are you making it a big deal
Exactly my point, i’m from a place where I too have had the horrible misfortune of seeing murder (gun violence), only for the perpetrators or accomplices to come and join in the crowd watching on asking individuals if “they say what happened, or saw the murderer”. With the idea of gathering information to perhaps “get rid of witnesses or those in the know”. I never fall for that one!
Obviously the evil people who could do this to another human being?
oh so you don’t know the murderer ..
Not personally, no.
huh ?? Your point being ?
Is this a trick question Aisha? Remember Doha is quite small, and some have been here for quite some time, aside from that the perpetrators left a club in sight of hundreds of people. You be the judge.
The Daily Mail is a more advanced Doha News. Both don’t fact check 🙂
If you are privvy to better substantiated facts – do please feel free to share them here?
well the updates we are getting is confusing ,Lauren Patterson may she rest in peace her body was burnt as the article said , how did rape get in to this how can you know if she was raped or stabbed in that manner how can they know that if her body turned to ashes ,,, this don’t make any sense !!
I don’t recall stating she was raped, and the forensics to prove one way or another are probably not possible now? Given the circumstances I rather suspect the initial motive was to rape, but that is purely my opinion, not an established fact.
The information Doha News has provided and linked is strange,that is my opinion
The facts that are known are referenced to a “Doha Police source” – Daily Mail.
Many other details will likely be forthcoming in the future. Remember they have 2 suspects in custody who are confessing? If they have them in separate locations I would imagine that they are telling all, and blaming on the other?
the article was removed from Daily Mail , we just have to wait and see !!
No one ever said she was raped. Authorities couldn’t determine. The rape was just speculation. what is known is some heathen(s) burned her to ashes. Fact check that.
First of all RIP. Second, with my respect to all your opinions, let me talk as a foreign female who has been abused in the past. These things happen for a personal reason and due to culture differences. When Lauren came in with a Western mindset, with an ex-boyfriend and a boyfriend idea being normal (i find it normal as well), many men just can’t take it when they are replaced … The idea of gang rape and the fact that they were aroused and that a rape sometimes leads to death which might have led to the murder is also possible. In all cases, one of you commented about being around the “wrong” people .. i think that is the main cause … it (harm) can happen anywhere, whether at home or outside … mingling with too many people who we think we “trust” and who we think “understand us” is the cause of all this harm… This happens when the mindset is different and sometimes we do things which we consider normal and which other cultures may not accept .. That is why it is essential to be extra careful especially for females who live abroad alone, in any country .. these things happen to women in other countries too .. mothers get followed on the streets .. so just be careful and be with the right people is my advice … RIP Lauren .. you didn’t deserve this …
What about women who get abused and murdered by their Western boyfriends, in the West no less! Happens all too often.
Yes I agree … it boils down to one thing … what one person does the other may not accept … it can happen in the same culture … the other person may just harm, hit or kill …
Abuse against women is a huge problem the world over. The west is no exception. Ray isn’t saying this is a uniquely Qatari problem (It’s not a West vs. East issue: it’s everywhere), but she is suggesting that cultural attitudes towards women should not be overlooked by women themselves when they decide how they are going to live their lives here. It is no secret that cultural norms in terms of dating (or the lack thereof, and specifically for women) and mixing are drastically different in this part of the world. The fact that tradition means that women don’t date, and even the secrecy surrounding your sisters’ or mother’s name says a lot about what is needed to be respected as a woman in this region. That said, it’s different. I don’t agree, but those aren’t my battles. Still, knowing this information is key to knowing how to conduct my life while in this country, and I think on the whole, women are not informed about gender relations in this region beyond the very superficial, “don’t shake hands unless invited.” Of the same token, when men from this region attend university in the US, they have to be taught how dating actually happens because if they went by what they see in the movies, they’d be in all sorts of trouble.
So, let’s focus here. I’ve seen black eyes masked by dark sunglasses both here and in the US. I personally know of cases where woman have returned to abuses husbands in this region and in the US. Abuse is unacceptable no matter the locale, and I’m sick of women being blamed by men and women alike. The problem is the men who abuse and the norm that makes hiding it to avoid shame acceptable. So, those of you who have sons, teach them that it is unacceptable to treat women in this way. Full stop. No debate.
I agree with how people should be careful with who they associate themselves with and statistics have proven that rapes and murderers are in many cases know the victim but I also disagree with your assessment with regards to cultural differences. Cultural differences can lead to misunderstandings and even murder…but murder is committed by people who are just evil. Difference in culture is not the primary catalyst. There are more rapes and murders in the US then anywhere else in the world. What is your explanation ? Culture ? What is your solution ? Segregation of races…cultures and people of different religions ?
Thank for you for saying it all it takes smart person to understand and agree with you & wish all the people like you talking from reality and fact, As you know when i witness this murder in Uk doesn’t change me or start to say British and British are bad, god give me brain & eyes to see and make difference not to sit on my bum and hate others.
It is terrible what happened to Lauren & hope it will be be justice.
Watch out incase others british think of you a hater or arab girl, because you know too much about them. I hardly have arabic friends and all my friends mostly english and american my self, and i can understand every single word you said, again thank you very much for making it clear to the rest.
Tell me about the attitude, i’m manager my self & had english boss, he was my country manager that time, a kid age 31, i remember we had meeting with one of the minster to solve work matter, but my boss ego was the problem when he said I’m British front of the minister i swear to god we’ve been asked to throw out from the office, but i step in fast and cool things down, so where is the moral and the manner ! Or because he is british does have all the right to see arab is nothing. Hope u get my point.
I don’t
I’m sure i wasn’t referring my points to you, it was clear the talk between Guest974 & me.
It baffles me that the comments became irrelevant with the article. Why it became a racial discussion is beyond me. Anyone can commit crime regardless of race and to paint Qataris in such a bad light is very much racist. I am a Filipino but never been discriminated by any Qatari in my 5 years of stay in this very welcoming state. I even have a friend (Filipino) who has a group of friends of Qataris who treat him as a “baby”. When I say baby I meant they are very protective of him. he calls them Akowi. My only observation is that some younger generations are reckless in driving. other than that I am very thankful to this country which has given me the opportunity to earn a decent living for me and my family. RIP Lauren.
Just woken up and curious as to how the comments developed while I was sleeping. For many hours yesterday, there were many frank opinions made and some frank replies, a couple of digressions even allowed some respectful levity away from the core story. Whatever the convictions it remained largely ‘bile free’.
Overnight it appears to have slipped towards the gutter?
I was wondering the same thing, a strange and unfortunate turn of events. I blame the second shift 🙂
i am being respectful and who are you to tell me not to ask questions ??
Wow that’s a broad stroked brush you use there concerning expats. Most of us do know who the Qatari is or isn’t. Do you live above your means here compared to Britain? I’d say we all do. According to most Qataris who care to comment so do the poor laborers that live in hell here. “It’s better than where they came from”. I may be from the west but have lived in the ME for many years. I’m married to an arab. And proud to say I called a ME country west of here with real culture, not a prefabbed one, home for many years. You need to stop nationality bashing. You group us all in one little neat ball and go at it.
Whew! Closing this thread now.